1 00:00:07,130 --> 00:00:05,690 Arizona yes sir uh were you aware of the 2 00:00:10,490 --> 00:00:07,140 was there any information over the 3 00:00:12,110 --> 00:00:10,500 television or the news media the papers 4 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:12,120 or anything of this uh 5 00:00:18,170 --> 00:00:14,880 uh thing they started up here Taylor 6 00:00:19,490 --> 00:00:18,180 Arizona well it's up on the ramp what 7 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:19,500 they call the rim cut through which is 8 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:21,060 Hebrew I'll give it to you in court I 9 00:00:24,769 --> 00:00:23,160 thought you should know about it right 10 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:24,779 now 11 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:27,119 there were seven men up there about 12 00:00:32,030 --> 00:00:29,240 three days ago they were all coming back 13 00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:32,040 just after Dark 14 00:00:35,090 --> 00:00:33,660 they were cutting wood and they were 15 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:35,100 coming in 16 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,320 they saw this bright 17 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:40,079 bright light this object that looked to 18 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:41,760 all feminism at the time there were 19 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:43,920 seven like a saucer or some unidentified 20 00:00:47,930 --> 00:00:45,300 Archie 21 00:00:50,029 --> 00:00:47,940 well Ralph Anderson's a very good friend 22 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:50,039 of mine and his brother Travis is the 23 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:52,140 young man about 22. 24 00:00:55,369 --> 00:00:54,000 and he's always made the statement 25 00:00:56,810 --> 00:00:55,379 around the country to everyone that 26 00:00:58,729 --> 00:00:56,820 knows him that he'd like to have some 27 00:01:00,830 --> 00:00:58,739 way of making communication with them 28 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:00,840 yes and they were talking about this 29 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:02,520 kind of a thing ironically at the time 30 00:01:06,770 --> 00:01:05,040 when they saw this light about 20 foot 31 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:06,780 hovered from the ground and 32 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:09,780 before they actually stopped their truck 33 00:01:13,330 --> 00:01:11,820 Travis jumped out of the car and ran up 34 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:13,340 underneath this thing if you can imagine 35 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:16,740 uh how many yards away I don't know that 36 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:19,020 quote but he ran up underneath it with 37 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:20,880 his hands in the air as a helpless or 38 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:22,500 friendly gesture 39 00:01:26,450 --> 00:01:24,540 it's time he done this 40 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,460 the other six men and these are pretty 41 00:01:30,410 --> 00:01:28,560 pretty uh pretty good local boys they're 42 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:30,420 not just you know they were sober too 43 00:01:36,770 --> 00:01:34,799 yes and uh they all witnessed a blue 44 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:36,780 for a bluish light 45 00:01:40,730 --> 00:01:38,880 that projected from the bottom of this 46 00:01:43,789 --> 00:01:40,740 craft whatever it was 47 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,799 and at that time it hit him and of 48 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:45,600 course he crumpled 49 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:46,860 fell 50 00:01:50,690 --> 00:01:49,020 now the rest of them were just you know 51 00:01:52,490 --> 00:01:50,700 like anyone else would be I guess they 52 00:01:54,289 --> 00:01:52,500 were terrified and so they started their 53 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:54,299 vehicle up and drove the other way on 54 00:01:59,450 --> 00:01:57,000 that Rim Road for several miles until 55 00:02:01,490 --> 00:01:59,460 they regained their wits 56 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:01,500 they came back a few minutes later and 57 00:02:05,810 --> 00:02:04,140 there was no sign of anything except as 58 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:05,820 they were departing as they were 59 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:07,619 entering the area where this happened 60 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:10,800 they did see this thing dysogic uh 61 00:02:17,290 --> 00:02:13,980 leaving moving across the sky 62 00:02:21,229 --> 00:02:17,300 now this has been publicized through the 63 00:02:22,729 --> 00:02:21,239 KPHO uh media over television I suppose 64 00:02:23,869 --> 00:02:22,739 the radio and all the other channels 65 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:23,879 we've got this 66 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:27,420 uh Sheriff Gillespie and uh Holbrook 67 00:02:33,170 --> 00:02:31,080 and many many other search deputies 68 00:02:35,089 --> 00:02:33,180 and the man is gone 69 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:35,099 they've checked it out there's radiation 70 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:38,760 there in this spot they don't know uh 71 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:40,920 Ralph told me that it buried 72 00:02:45,770 --> 00:02:42,900 there was some fairly heavy and then it 73 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:45,780 was light also 74 00:02:51,290 --> 00:02:48,660 but what would raise me 75 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:51,300 well that's hard to say but this is 76 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,760 really true now I can uh like I said if 77 00:02:57,650 --> 00:02:54,959 you wanted to confirm this you could 78 00:03:00,170 --> 00:02:57,660 call what is the mother's lesbian 79 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:00,180 call Ralph Patterson this is uh the 80 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:03,000 Man's brother who uh vanished Ralph 81 00:03:06,650 --> 00:03:04,680 Anderson's a good friend of mine and I 82 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:06,660 suggest that they do this today 83 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:08,940 but he said that they had some men in 84 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:12,000 the Tucson uh Flagstaff and Tucson area 85 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:13,860 that were coming up but I read this 86 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:15,540 article in your book here and I felt 87 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:18,300 that it probably is by most the foremost 88 00:03:23,210 --> 00:03:20,760 experience relating to this type of 89 00:03:25,610 --> 00:03:23,220 research on this thing Ralph called me 90 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:25,620 back about 2 30 today 91 00:03:30,830 --> 00:03:27,780 he was going out there there are going 92 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:30,840 out again here in search you know air 93 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:32,580 and ground search they're going to make 94 00:03:36,170 --> 00:03:34,800 a last-ditch effort attempt on it for 48 95 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,180 continual hours 96 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:38,159 Ralph said at the time he called he was 97 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:40,260 shortly planning on leaving and would 98 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:42,840 not be back until whatever time 99 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:46,260 this 48 Hours could develop it 100 00:03:50,509 --> 00:03:49,080 but uh well I was kind of concerned he 101 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:50,519 said is there a possibility that they 102 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:51,360 could have took that matter 103 00:03:56,509 --> 00:03:54,120 disintegrated him and uh 104 00:03:58,490 --> 00:03:56,519 who knows 105 00:04:01,250 --> 00:03:58,500 now what was that man's name again who's 106 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:01,260 uh Missing uh here's the man's name 107 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:03,720 missing is Travis 108 00:04:12,589 --> 00:04:10,550 this has been well publicized throughout 109 00:04:14,690 --> 00:04:12,599 the entire State of Arizona 110 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,700 it's been on every channel we catch it 111 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:16,560 on the six o'clock news it's been on the 112 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:17,820 10 o'clock news 113 00:04:21,650 --> 00:04:20,160 and it happened Thursday night has this 114 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:21,660 been published in any of the papers you 115 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:23,880 know if I don't know about the papers my 116 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:26,460 friend they'll certainly been in the I 117 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:28,320 think my wife just said it is has been 118 00:04:32,030 --> 00:04:30,780 in the paper Okay in fact it's been a 119 00:04:34,189 --> 00:04:32,040 headliner 120 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:34,199 the first day it happened 121 00:04:38,930 --> 00:04:36,720 that night when the boys came back 122 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:38,940 without Travis Walton 123 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:41,040 Ralph called me about three o'clock in 124 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:42,360 the morning and told me what had 125 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:44,280 happened and he was leaving upon that 126 00:04:47,570 --> 00:04:46,380 after the phone call to me then they 127 00:04:50,330 --> 00:04:47,580 were going out there the next day they 128 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:50,340 had it search party of 55 men they 129 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:52,620 turned up nothing except the radiolence 130 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:59,570 yes 131 00:05:03,469 --> 00:05:01,919 if you want to call him or call me but 132 00:05:04,909 --> 00:05:03,479 I'll give you my name and number but I 133 00:05:07,129 --> 00:05:04,919 don't think it'd be important for my 134 00:05:08,749 --> 00:05:07,139 name but I'm just concerned about the 135 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:08,759 thing and if you're a sharpshooter on a 136 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:10,080 thing I'd like to see somebody do 137 00:05:14,170 --> 00:05:11,610 something Buddy 138 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:14,180 [Music] 139 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:16,740 oh it's about 35 miles from right here 140 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,060 at our home where I'm calling you from 141 00:05:22,249 --> 00:05:20,400 okay 142 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:22,259 and what was the date of this incident 143 00:05:26,510 --> 00:05:24,479 again what was the date of the incident 144 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:26,520 well it was Thursday Thursday okay 145 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:29,520 Thursday night uh I'd say shortly after 146 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,660 dark 147 00:05:35,150 --> 00:05:32,639 that's when I said seven men at that 148 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:35,160 time were leaving in their truck 149 00:05:46,490 --> 00:05:43,070 or so off the ground 150 00:05:47,870 --> 00:05:46,500 and uh at that time travel Travis had 151 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:47,880 been talking about this and the whole 152 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:49,620 country knows this he's always wanted to 153 00:05:53,450 --> 00:05:51,300 communicate with these people and I 154 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:53,460 believe this or not and before they ever 155 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:55,199 got the truck stop he ran out there 156 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,639 underneath that thing with his hands 157 00:06:01,850 --> 00:05:58,800 stretched up near as uh guess your 158 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:01,860 friendliness or help or something and 159 00:06:06,890 --> 00:06:03,660 then this uh 160 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,900 bluish-like ray of light 161 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:09,120 projected from the bottom of that crop 162 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:10,280 and 163 00:06:21,650 --> 00:06:19,199 they left for a few minutes they said 164 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:21,660 they didn't know exactly how long 165 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:23,580 they came back and there was no side of 166 00:06:26,450 --> 00:06:24,840 anything other than the fact that the 167 00:06:28,010 --> 00:06:26,460 village was fighting again they saw this 168 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:28,020 leaving 169 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:29,940 we sure appreciate your calling I 170 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:32,280 mentioned one thing all of these other 171 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:33,120 men 172 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:35,100 included that we're at this sighting 173 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,740 witnessing this have all agreed to and 174 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,120 first of the week they're all going to 175 00:06:43,969 --> 00:06:41,520 take a lie detector test 176 00:06:46,370 --> 00:06:43,979 uh probably in Holbrook and Marlon 177 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:46,380 Gillespie's at the courthouse there to 178 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:49,740 verify and substantiate this 179 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:53,280 and that would be uh verified by Ralph 180 00:06:57,529 --> 00:06:55,800 Anderson Ralph Anderson is Travis's